people in the country have seen him respond to hurricane sandy, working around the clock, and he's done by all accounts an exemplary job. that's what matters. that's the key criteria. >> you're right. >> but will some people take it as a style point? sure. but it's not the real substance. >> way outside the style of all of this. there is facts behind this. the national institutes of health say if you're about 5'11" and weigh 215 pounds, you're considered obese. and the risks that are scientifically associated with being obese are severe. i mean, blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, gallstones, breathing problems, certain cancers. that's unavoidable, those are realities. and that, by the way, are just at obese. there are other statistics for being even heavier than that, and chris christie's never said how heavy he is, but isn't that a concern for the leader of the free world to be at risk for this many more diseases than the average guy? >> it's a concern, but the american people would have to take that into account. and if he decides to run for president, you'll probably see an attempt to